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PostSubject: Suggestion for a new Venger   Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:50 am

So, i was thinking about making a new R for avenger.
-Move berg to E and change damage reflect too 100%.
-Berg duration changes depend on level.
-His Q will become his new D or F
-The dual wield dagger attribute will add a hidden skill.
-Summon minion will be removed.
-When he transform, it summon 3 minions at his current location.
-Loop cause 3 more minions to spawn every 3 seconds until loop ends.
-Loop is now WE(Transform, Berg)
-Loop cause Berg to reflect 150% damage.
-Loop disable his new R for it's duration.
-Loop cannot be activated while his R is in effect.
-Everything else about loop remain the same.

Name: Fragarach
CD: 60 seconds
Mana: 800
Cast Time: Instant
Effect: 5 seconds after casting this ability, if avenger get hit or die to an enemies's ultimate attacks(s), the attack will be negated and the enemy will die. Bypass Avalon and immunity.

There will be a special graphic effect that is display for 1 second upon activation. No other special graphic effect after.

This effect last 3 seconds after the 5 seconds prepare period. After this effect has been trigger,avenger will be invulnerable(frozen/stopped) for 1 second and the the effect duration will be set to 1 second after.

If he get hit or die to another enemies's ultimate attacks(s), the attack will be negated and the enemy will die. Bypass Avalon and immunity.

This effect continues until avenger die to a non-ultimate attack or the duration reach 0.

Link effect on avenger will be dispel on activation and remove every 1 second until the effect ends.



What is consider ultimate attack? Here is a list of what skill and condition it needs to trigger the effect:

Saber: Get hit by Excalibur, Avalon or Max Excalibur.
Archer: Dies to archer's skill while in UBW(death by passive UBW blades does not count, but archer combo will count), get hit by crane or get hit by Hrunting(splash do not count).
Lancer: Get hit by Gae Bolg[E] or Wesen Gae Bolg.(Lancer will dies, but the Gae Bolg will not be negated so they can both die at once)
Rider: Get hit by Bellerophon or Bellerophon II
Caster: Get hit by Hecatic Graea or Hecatic Graea II
False Assassin: Get hit by Tsubame Gaeshi(TG will be stopped instantly just like when fa dies), dies to Clones(death to real fa will not trigger it).
Berzerker: Get hit by Nine(instantly stop nine just like when zerker dies) or dies to berzerker combo.
Gilgamesh: Get hit by EA, get hit by Max EA, dies to GoB(instantly close all gates on the map)
True Assassin: Get hit by Zabaniya or TA Combo
Dark Saber: Get hit by Dark Excalibur or Max Mana Blast
Avenger: Cut hit own throat
Lancelot: Die to Lancelot's melee while he is in Arondite form or dies to nuke(nuke will be stop instantly)
Zero Lancer: Dies to one of his spear, or get hit by both spear within 3 seconds on each other.
Zero Caster: Dies to creature summoning damage or dies to zc combo within first 5 seconds of zc combo

Graphic: When the effect triggers, the enemy hero will be teleported to a small square area somewhere on the map. Then Bazzete will appear and use Fragarach on the enemy hero. The screen of the player of enemy hero will have picture of Bazzete displayed for 1 second.

Optional: Play the sound of GGG from NF.
Seconds Optional: Show trollface.jpg for 5 seconds on the screen of enemy player.

Picture of Bazzete(Top Right)
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:18 pm

fragarach seems like a good skill to be bought from skillpoints, not a regular skill
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:00 pm

aneq wrote:
fragarach seems like a good skill to be bought from skillpoints, not a regular skill

Except the part where it teleports the enemy off the map which makes it pretty op
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:54 pm

EternalDevote wrote:
aneq wrote:
fragarach seems like a good skill to be bought from skillpoints, not a regular skill

Except the part where it teleports the enemy off the map which makes it pretty op

u must have missed the part where i said "kill" the enemy hero once it activated
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:47 pm

this isnt nanoha fight -.-
the entire concept of that skill is from ggg in nf =/

and venger has high damage potiential dealing up to 2100 with creeps alone
althrought they need to explode faster on summon
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:38 pm

TheWorstNewbie wrote:
this isnt nanoha fight -.-
the entire concept of that skill is from ggg in nf =/

and venger has high damage potiential dealing up to 2100 with creeps alone
althrought they need to explode faster on summon

it is from GGG, but u must keep in mind that GGG is only a supporter and he has an interesting skills that could also apply to fate. I mean nf also have beams in it, does that mean fate can't have the same concept of beams?
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PostSubject: Re: Suggestion for a new Venger   Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:24 pm

There shouldnt be any instant kill move that isnt a combo for heroes and even then those current instant kill moves are based on luck
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